Demo Crashes - Does the Steam also?

[Thor446]

Holy crap, she's good at making music.

I don't own Torchlight or RWG, but I would agree that AMD is the issue. I'll let you know what happens after the hotfix.

The DYK menu does end the crash notices, but it kind of seems silly to have a wall of text pop up for a second, so you can't even read it. Building on that, do you think you could make it pause on the DYK menu, so that you would have to hit enter or "next" or another button to make it go away? Kind of like how Democracy 3 ends the turn, then shows a quote that you have to hit enter to return to the game.

[Thor446]

Update, it appears it didn't switch into OpenGL when I told it to, but now I'm playing in OpenGL and I haven't had a crash for hours now.

[Eric.B]

Holy crap, she's good at making music.

And she keeps getting better. But her style doesn't really mesh well with this game. Hopefully we can use some of her work again in the future for different projects!

I'll let you know what happens after the hotfix.

I believe the hotfix is for fans. Seems like fan control is broken on some cards.

The DYK menu does end the crash notices, but it kind of seems silly to have a wall of text pop up for a second, so you can't even read it. Building on that, do you think you could make it pause on the DYK menu, so that you would have to hit enter or "next" or another button to make it go away? Kind of like how Democracy 3 ends the turn, then shows a quote that you have to hit enter to return to the game.

I'm not sure if it was implemented in 1.18.7 or after, but you can keep the DYK window open after simming a turn. When you open up the end turn menu there is a check box to keep that window open.


That being said, the longer you play the game (and the crapper CPU you have) the more time you have to read them. With both my laptop and the windows dev machine, I can read the dyk's after a few years of gameplay with full AI.

Update, it appears it didn't switch into OpenGL when I told it to, but now I'm playing in OpenGL and I haven't had a crash for hours now.

Good to hear! Then yes, its driver issue and not the game. You have to hit apply and restart the game for settings to save.

In anyevent, when you get updates from AMD, try out the game in directx and see if you still crash, since the directx looks a little prettier than our opengl port.

[FruLuna]

Holy crap, she's good at making music.

Thank you! I can confirm that I have not played Runescape, so the music sounding like that was not on purpose.

[Thor446]

And she keeps getting better. But her style doesn't really mesh well with this game. Hopefully we can use some of her work again in the future for different projects!

I think it does fit in very well, actually. Her music really gives the feeling of a 20s style movie or tycoon game. I can't explain it, but it does make it feel more like a fast paced business environment in the golden age of America.

I believe the hotfix is for fans. Seems like fan control is broken on some cards.

Ah yeah, I should probably google these things first. Luckily I didn't have that issue.

I'm not sure if it was implemented in 1.18.7 or after, but you can keep the DYK window open after simming a turn. When you open up the end turn menu there is a check box to keep that window open.

Yeah, that was 1.18.7. I'm just trying to find a way to be even lazier, so that works too.

Good to hear! Then yes, its driver issue and not the game. You have to hit apply and restart the game for settings to save.

In anyevent, when you get updates from AMD, try out the game in directx and see if you still crash, since the directx looks a little prettier than our opengl port.

I did restart it, but somehow it didn't register it, but all is well now. As soon as they release better drivers, I'll be right back here to let you know how it goes.

But definitely keep it up, this is by far the best tycoon game I've ever played, and I can't wait to see where it goes from here. I do like Automation's more advanced designing of parts, but that's about all it has going for it, whereas GC is still in depth, and even funner.

Though I do have yet another suggestion, engine reliability. Do reliability ratings go up over time? So a V8 in 1910 is far less reliable than a V8 in 1990? If yes, that would explain it, but if not, I think certain engines could do with a shakeup of the ratings. The engine in my F-150 (a 5.4L V8) has won awards for being one of the most reliable, long lasting engines ever, and mine personally has given me quite a bit of work out of it. But when I re-make it ingame, it somehow only gets like a 3.5 star reliability rating.

Thank you! I can confirm that I have not played Runescape, so the music sounding like that was not on purpose.

It's a good thing, Runescape was basically my entire childhood. You music somehow brings up my nostalgia, despite it being different songs, and an entirely different game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4M4XTsx...6E&index=4

If you listened through this playlist, you can definitely see the similar style. There's a few songs that I have in mind that I can't quite put my finger on, but a good 2-3 of your songs sound exactly like songs that played in locations that I spent most of my time on that game on.

I listened through your soundcloud, and you do make some pretty good songs

[Thor446]

Uh oh, it happened again

https://www.dropbox.com/s/krby2g4ix16sat...e.txt?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ancfox7u8cu7jr...4.log?dl=0

Appears to be something wrong with the GUI or something. I just made 3 trucks, went back to the office, built a new factory, then hit End, and it just died.

[Eric.B]

The first one shows that it crashed inside libgui, but that's just where the crash finished at. This: Exception Code: c0000005 shows that the memory stack was blown, so the actual crash was between clicking the mouse and after all the events are finished for clicking the mouse. When you change "rooms" the click happens, it loads the rooms, renders once, and then the click is "finished"

In the logfile, the "Made It" happens when you get to the first rendering inside the office. So the crash isn't in the GUI, but rather rendering something blew the memory stack causing the rest of the program to forget where variables are stored, thus crashed with c0000005 inside quickgui when it tried to use a variable.

So in short, still probably driver issues.

If QuickGUI was the issue, it would throw an exception in the logfiles or have the same issue all the time.

[Thor446]

Pretty much what happened is I clicked on the office button, then I guess it froze for a second to load, and I clicked again, which caused the crash, as usual with windows. I was hoping there was a way to fix that freezing, but I guess it's just the game being slow or something?

[Eric.B]

I'm not sure why you would get lag there... My computer is quite a bit older (A 2008, Phenom 9550...) and the only place I have any noticeable lag is going to RnD.

Anyhoo, I've been fiddling around with a similar bug today, it may fix clicking crash you have assuming it's related and not a driver issue.

[Thor446]

I have a FX-6200, so it shouldn't be doing that, but it might be a windows 7 thing to freeze up like that.