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Engine Design, Performance vs Revolutions slider
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Currently in almost all my engine creations, some some race engines or challenging contract engines aside, I put the performance slider always fully to the right, as the revolution sliders seems to do give more power cheaper, while at the same time having less of a negative effect on fuel consumption and durability. Is this WAD?

My intuition would say performance should have stronger effect, perhaps also increase torque and reduce weight, while revolutions should have a bigger effect on durability than it currently does.
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It is WAD.

Durability hits on moving both the torque and RPMs to max is around 10-15 points. That's off the top of my head roughly 50% of the slider changeable durability. The rest of durability is generated from your sub component selection.

Fuel is mainly controlled by the fuel economy slider. It controls a hefty chunk of the slider changeable fuel consumption. A lot is dependent on your engine size and sub component selection.

Also note, just because an engine has increased RPMs does not mean that its optimal brake specific fuel consumption changes much. Combustion is dependent on Air, Fuel, and Spark. One can adjust the levels of these to provide maximum RPMs, Torque, or even least fuel consumption at certain ranges. Remember, you're seeing Peak RPMs, Peak Torque, and Peak Fuel Economy. These do not all happen at the same time.

(Also note, that a lot of RPM increasing techniques such as reducing piston ring thickness or using thinner oil actually improve fuel economy as well. Wink )
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(06-23-2015, 08:43 PM)Eric.B Wrote: Durability hits on moving both the torque and RPMs to max is around 10-15 points. That's off the top of my head roughly 50% of the slider changeable durability. The rest of durability is generated from your sub component selection.

I can't see the point ratings in the game, but I noticed my durability star rating went down when I moved the performance slider in design focus panel up, but not when I moved revolution slider in the performance panel up.

If I design a new engine, with all siders starting at 40 and move performance all the way down and compensate that with the revolution slider giving a few ticks up to get back to the rpm I started out with I have a slightly cheaper engine that seems to perform just as well.

Quote:Also note, just because an engine has increased RPMs does not mean that its optimal brake specific fuel consumption changes much. Combustion is dependent on Air, Fuel, and Spark. One can adjust the levels of these to provide maximum RPMs, Torque, or even least fuel consumption at certain ranges. Remember, you're seeing Peak RPMs, Peak Torque, and Peak Fuel Economy. These do not all happen at the same time.

I understand that, although I'm not sure about the the Peak Fuel Economy, a well designed gearbox seems to give my cars a better fuel economy than the engine itself. So fuel economy seems to be more of rough indication of average fuel economy with an average gearbox.

Quote:(Also note, that a lot of RPM increasing techniques such as reducing piston ring thickness or using thinner oil actually improve fuel economy as well. Wink )

I understand that many of those techniques improve engine efficiency as less energy is lost through friction. A better engineered engine tends to be better I guess Wink)
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Quote:I understand that, although I'm not sure about the the Peak Fuel Economy

Remember, the fuel economy you see when designing an engine is Brake Specific Fuel Economy. It has nothing to do with gearboxes. There is a peak fuel efficiency even for engines by themselves. See the wikipedia page for more details: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brake_spec...onsumption (The graph they show paints the entire picture)
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